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Frigga ([personal profile] cloudspinner) wrote2004-08-05 11:39 pm

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[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-29 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
He turned the wine glass in his hands. He wasn't really certain where he was going with any of this, which left him feeling very off balance. Normally, he considered his words far better. He had an intended end point for every conversation. But this time, there was too much swirling through his mind, too much troubling him. He didn't know where to begin, and so it was coming out so unevenly, so unmeasured.

"Being here for nearly two years has only highlighted for me how unlike the mortals I am," he finally said. "But I do not feel as if Asgard is home to me either." He smiled crookedly. "It was painfully obvious I did not belong at all amongst the Asgardians, when I grew up. Being what I am, that is not going to change."

Because he wasn't going to change for them. He just wanted to be Loki.
complicatedliar: (i have to burn your kingdom down)

[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-29 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
"A place other than the dungeon?" he asked, dryly. "I am not the person Asgard wished me to be. I never was. I wasted many centuries trying, and I am done with it."

Though apparently not quite so done, since there were still certain things he did not wish to admit to Mother about himself. Hah, even then, still hiding.

"You are not all of Asgard, mother. If you were, I would feel far less hatred for that realm. And it for me, presumably." He huffed a laugh. "Perhaps some day I will meet this person you and Thor seem to think I am, but I do not believe in the existence of such a Loki."
complicatedliar: (drifting sweetly away)

[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-29 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki sighed. Well, yes, he should have expected this, since he hadn't come in with a plan. Of course they were going to rehash the old argument again, because it was an argument that neither side had ever won. Frigga had merely ended it with her death, so they could continue it now. But he also couldn't resist digging at it, because the argument had never ended. "Next time I'll be sure to merely smash everything with a hammer instead. Maybe then I'll get a vacation on Midgard for my trouble," he drawled.

He sat back on the couch, turning the wine glass slowly in his fingers. Always turning. "Then who am I, mother? For every time I think I've figured it out, it all falls to pieces again."
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[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-29 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
"Better that than rotting in a cage," he said quietly. It had driven him near to madness. "But for the exercise of being told my birthright is death without the following kindness of the ax's fall." His hand twitched, though he didn't quite spill the wine; he set his glass down carefully after that.


He crossed his hands carefully over his stomach. "I've so many birthrights I can't keep track of them all any longer. Blood-drinking monster, corpse, king of blasted, hated wasteland, king of Asgard, shadow of Thor. No wonder I'm so confused." For a moment he pursed his lips, trying to swallow down the words that came next, but he'd never been good at keeping anything from Frigga. "I'm as insubstantial as air. As light. There are an infinite number of Lokis, depending upon whom you ask, all crammed into one little shell. And I'm so bloody tired of it, mother. I'm so tired sometimes. I wish it would just stop, only I do insist on surviving even when everyone would rather I didn't."
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complicatedliar: (nothing left for me to see)

[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-29 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
"There is no hope or light forever imprisoned either, mother. Only boredom, and eventual madness. I'd rather die still myself, whatever that might be, than be reduced to a curiosity in a cage, there for sport." He had already made quite a few bargains to escape that fate in darker places. A slightly more comfortable prison was still the same four walls for all eternity.

I know not who told you your birthright is death-- he couldn't help but shake his head, a laugh that wasn't a laugh coming sharply to his lips. "Your husband told me that, mother."

He wanted to believe much of what he said. He hated the wheel of fate. He did not want to believe that Loki was a thing to be forever reviled, though if that was to happen, he would go down cursing it with his last breath. "It's very difficult to accept who I am when I am nothing I was ever lead to believe. Loki was a fabrication not of my making from the beginning." It felt like the struggle was taking ownership of that lie and making it something of his, rather than imposed from the outside. That was the true fight for survival, not just life, but the right to be what he was. If only he felt like he understood quite what that might be. Some days he felt he knew. This wasn't one of them, beyond vague outlines like Frigga's son, and brother to Thor, and liar, and magician. "To thine own self be true."

Not so different than certain conversations he'd had with mother before, perhaps. But now he had two years of other experiences, thoughts, to consider. And he also was no longer a prisoner. He could get up and walk away if he so chose. That knowledge made it feel very, very different.
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[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-29 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
"The only way to leave that prison was ultimately a planned escape," Loki said quietly. "Your husband made that clear as well, since death was off the table. "Kind of him to keep me for our lovely little talks."

He sat back a little as if slapped. Him, similar to Odin? He refused. "No," he said. "No. I'm not like him at all." For all his nasty jokes, that he'd learned to lie from the best, he hated Odin. He did not want to think the man had put any mark on him at all.

Loki opened his mouth to argue, but the last thing she said struck him. Simple words were the most important. He frowned. "Out of compassion for you?"

complicatedliar: (what? no. what?)

[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-30 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Loki frowned, brows drawing together. He couldn't see his mother's expression or gestures, only hear the note of strain in her voice, and he wasn't quite certain how to read it. "I suppose... I though it because we caused trouble enough for ten children, really." Because of course, growing up, his world had always been just mother, father, older brother. Why would there be more than that, or less?

Strange still, to think of it now that he was forced to truly realize that Frigga had only one son in the sense of blood, and that was Thor. But that was not so strange, was it?

"Volstagg and his veritable litter of children was the exception rather than the rule. Two seems a nice number." His lips twisted slightly as he fought the urge to dig at the fact that two, even if one of them was a cuckoo in that nest. No, Frigga was his mother in all ways that mattered, and that was a scab he would no longer pick. Let it heal.
complicatedliar: (i am done with my graceless heart)

[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-30 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
Loki was silent for a long time, taking in her words. He still could not believe that Odin's purposes had been so purely altruistic. The Allfather didn't think that way. But to Hel with Odin, this wasn't about him. Odin wasn't here. Mother was. And this.

It was something he'd never even suspected. What child would?

His expression was thoughtful, puzzled, as he considered what she told him, mulled it over, tried to fit him into what he understood. His understanding of his own childhood was now a shattered, warped thing, forever colored by suspicion and paranoia, the knowledge that he could never truly trust anything on its face.

But it explained one thing well, why Frigga had been so terribly stricken at his hasty words, his repudiation. She'd only had Thor, and thought she would have no more children at all. To be given another, even a squalling little monster, must have felt nothing short of miraculous. He could understand in a small way. He'd been so desperate for the return of his own child, the one that had never and would never exist, that he'd tried to create her from the whole fabric of reality, and fallen into a black despair he almost didn't escape when she'd unwoven before his eyes.

And for once he was rendered truly speechless by all of this. After long thought, he finally moved, carefully, to sit next to his mother, and wrapped his arms around her.
complicatedliar: (when your dreams all fail)

[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-30 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
On the scale of Asgardians, Loki had never been an overly affectionate person. But it felt immensely, shockingly good to embrace Frigga like this. Perhaps because he knew, in his bones, that he would never do so again in Asgard. Not in this life. Another thing that had changed between them, perhaps; he knew too keenly the pain of having said hasty words he did not mean in hindsight, and then knowing he could never take them back or heal that wound because she was lost forever.

He would still speak hastily at times. He would still turn words to daggers. It was in his nature to do so. But perhaps now he might try to pause for a breath before he did so. And he knew that this was important. So important.

"I'm sorry, mother," he whispered. For this loss she'd felt, perhaps. But for so much more than that.
complicatedliar: (we still are made of greed)

[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-30 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
"I know," he said quietly. He had realized that, when it was far too late to do anything but mourn his mother's loss. He took a breath, let it out slowly. He knew that she might not like what he would say next, but this was part of his own personal fight as well, for the survival that self-definition offered. Odin was a topic upon which they would never agree; he would repudiate that bastard until his dying breath. But he felt it important that she would know this. "Since my return here, I have borne the name Friggason by my choice."
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[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-30 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki couldn't help but smile, partially because there was joy in hearing her say that, and partially because of course he always smiled rather than crying. "It sits well on the tongue, I thought."

He covered her hands with his, leaning forward slightly. It felt better, for having told her that, and knowing that she wanted him as her son, still. There was power in names, and he'd named himself this time.

"Thor and I avenged you. Together." It seemed important, to tell her that again. Though he still wished to carefully avoid the conclusion to that, for a multitude of reasons.
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[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-31 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
No, he decided, he would not tell mother that ultimately it had been Thor who had done so, because Loki had been dead. Why grieve her for no more reason? No one else would be so cruel as to tell her that.

Instead he gave her a crooked smile. "Thor let me out of my cage for it," he said. "He planned it all on his own. I was rather proud of him. Subterfuge, if you can imagine it."
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[personal profile] complicatedliar 2014-08-31 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
"There is little to be told, really. Or perhaps little I can tell, for I was not privy to it and the Thor with us here has not yet lived it." He considered where best to start the tale. "I do not know what had happened at all, beyond the invasion being defeated. I saw the Kursed one, of course, but he did not deign to free me."

His smile fell away then, because yes, he'd made his mischief. And he would not have cared, not even now, but for the harm he knew it had done.

Should he simply gloss past it? What good would it do? He felt as if his mother might have forgiven him for his words, but for this? She had been wounded by the words. This, she did not know and therefore it could not hurt her. And yet. There were few things in his life Loki truly regretted, and this had become one of them. It ate at him like a cancer still. He'd told Rogue of it, and she'd told him it wasn't his fault, but still it plagued him.

And now this was the chance, to confess, to beg forgiveness. Loki, admitting what wrong he had done. But it was not often he thought anything he did wrong in any sense. But his words had, to his thinking, ended his mother's life. And that, he could not escape. Caught in indecision, he fell silent, hand coming up to his mouth so he could worry at one knuckle with his teeth.

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